I've just recently learned zope, and it is great. Far better than J2EE, and faster to work with than plain old CGI. I've got a few difficulties, though. I use vim as my primary editor, and I would like to use cvs to backup my work. I can do this with ZPT and Script objects, but it is rather cumbersome to repeatedly upload the files through the web interface. In addition, I can't do that with ZSQL methods. As I was RTFMing, I discovered that I should be able to use cadaver to move files/objects between the local filesystem (where I use vim and cvs to work with them) and the ZODB. I can access ZPT and Script sources with cadaver, but I can't seem to upload changes with it. I also can't access or update ZSQL methods. Am I missing something really obvious, or is it just very difficult to develop a zope site using some traditional tools? TIA, -D PS. ftp isn't a viable option for this site -- Consider what God has done: Who can straighten what He has made crooked? Ecclesiastes 7:13