Hi All, I recently ugpraded to Zope 2.11.1 and now get the following errors every so often: Module Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate, line 330, in _exec Module Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate, line 427, in pt_render Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 96, in pt_render Module zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate, line 115, in pt_render - Warning: Macro expansion failed - Warning: zope.tal.taldefs.METALError: macro nesting limit (100) exceeded by u'template/macros/showbullet' Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 271, in __call__ Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 534, in do_optTag_tal Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 745, in do_insertStructure_tal Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 200, in evaluateStructure Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 232, in _handleText Module Products.PageTemplates.unicodeconflictresolver, line 69, in resolve Module zope.publisher.http, line 931, in getPreferredCharsets ValueError: too many values to unpack There appear to be two contradictory errors going on here: 1. - Warning: Macro expansion failed - Warning: zope.tal.taldefs.METALError: macro nesting limit (100) exceeded by u'template/macros/showbullet' 2. Module zope.publisher.http, line 931, in getPreferredCharsets ValueError: too many values to unpack Has anyone seen either? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk