An eternity ago (20 May) I followed the exchange initiated by Ken Causey on problems in saving Versions. Having updated to the latest Zope version (2.6.2b1) I did not anticipate similar problems but regret to report I have suffered them. I am out of the hole and don't need help but thought it might be useful to report a few facts: I spent an evening making extensive revisions to a development site under version control - mostly moving folders and revising menus. I am pretty sure I was the only active user. Happy with may changes I saved them and left Version control (no error messages, everything apparently normal). None of the changes were visible to normal users! Out of Version control all the changes were marked as locked. In Version control all of the changes were visible. Saving produced the message "Nothing to Save". Very frustrating, and easy to understand Ken's swearing never to use Versions again. I got out of the hole by exporting the entire site, which is fortunately in a folder one level down from root. (I think I must have been in Version control but can't swaer to that.) I renamed the problem folder and imported the exported folder. That did the trick - I had all the changes I had made. Phew! Whilst poking around for a solution I noticed that my Version was not owned by me! I have a colleague who looks after hardware and software installation, the apache front end, rewrite rules and so on. A few weeks ago we decided to rename the site folder and he did that because it was associated with the rewrite rules. It turns out he probably did a copy and paste + rename to creat the folder with the new name whilst the old folder still existed. He seems to have become the owner of the new branch and all its sub-items. I don't know if this is the source of the problem with Versions, but I too am reluctant to use Version control again. Cliff