I would like to say I'd accept the challenge, but unfortunately still don't have the Zope Zen needed to do some of that stuff I see in ezPublish...I have been able to scratch Zope's surface, and do a couple of simple things with it, but that's it, that was why I was seeking boxed solutions for more advanced stuff. Jorge M. Ausum Studio wrote:
From: "Jorge O. Martinez" <jmartinez@emediamillworks.com>
Hi:
I don't know of a demo open for the public, but I have installed it in my
dev
machine at home (where I also have Zope, CMF, PostNuke, etc.), and it does
have
separation of content/presentation/logic, so you can change the look
radically
from the 'standard' look it comes. I also like you can have as many categories/subcategories, you can place an article in more than one
category,
there's a way for internationalization, and there are other modules that
can be
easily added. Also the admin screen is very easy to use, and can be
easily
taught to a total newbie. Not that all of the above cannot be done in
Zope, I
am just saying that comes out of the box with ezPublish...
I've looked at the screenshots and certainly I'm impressed by them. Not that much as I keep needing a working demo in order to try it out, though :)
ezPublish is not PHPNuke or PostNuke (both considered by many excellent software, I reserve my opinion either way ;-), ezPublish offers much more flexibility and chance for customization than these.
For people following this thread and who haven't seen PostNuke, as it was mentioned here, you may create a an admin account here, and then judge for yourselves: http://postnuke.bloodymongrel.com/demo/
I was thinking the best of both worlds would be if the ezPublish
developers
decided to port it to Zope...;-)
I think it's more likely that Zope includes or recreate ezPublish's features that other developers port its software to another platform. Anyway I think it is a nice challenge to review and mentally improve what you see from other suites, and then create your own version for Zope. Would you accept it? :)
Ausum
Regards,
Jorge M.
Ausum Studio wrote:
Is there a working demo you know about?
I remember to have arrived to ezPublish's site, and also to have left it
in
a heartbeat, just after reading "PHP" and relating it to Post/PHP Nuke.
Of
these last, I had the chance to test drive PostNuke at its online demo,
and
I came up to the conclusion that although it is a little more featured out-of-the-box than CMF+Plone+ZZen, what was implemented was not the way
I'd
like a community site to be, and so I decided not to try it. (PostNuke
is
supossed to be more featured than PHPNuke.)
The problem with OOTB suites is that it causes all the web sites to look
the
same, and therefore clients concerned about this urging us developers to
be
more creative and even more intuitive when creating a site's experience. Nonetheless, as they are a great marketing for the platform behind them,
it
would be good to know what EzPublish can do so that we could surpass its features in a future skin release.
Ausum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge O. Martinez" <jmartinez@eMediaMillWorks.com> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: [Zope] Something like ezPublish in Zope....
Hi:
First of please don't flame me if I sound like a devil's advocate
here...
Does anybody know of a product as complete/mature as ezPublish (a CMS
built
with PHP/Mysql, it's at http://publish.ez.no) in Zope?
I have checked out CMF, and Plone, but although they are very nice, in
the
case
of CMF, it seems that it does not have all the features that ezPublish
has
out
of the box, and with Plone, there's still no 'stable' release as of this writing. Besides, both of these products seem oriented mainly towards
building
collaborative web sites where all members eventually post news and info,
and do
not seem to be oriented towards 'topic and/or category' driven sites
maintained
by a handful of people only. I am not saying it cannot be done with
Zope.
I
have also checked ZopeZen's code, but it's not as full-featured as
ezPublish.
I know zope has the basis to build everything that exists in ezPublish,
but I
was wondering if there's a Zope CMF that's similar in features and
stability as
ezPublish out of the box.
Regards,
Jorge M.
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