I am using Rad Hat Linux 7.x. which comes with python 2.2 not the problem. I have Zope that has a python 2.1 one with it. when I try to build w_pcgi.py using the python that comes with zope, I get compile errors when trying to build the exception modules, the last message has a message like "I and PICKY raiseError" There are a ton of warning and a few errors sprinkled in a compiler output (or at least it looks like that). Anyway I have been working at this installation for about a week, I have tried a source install and binary install. No matter which way I go zope fails to build using the 2.1 python that comes with it. Has anyone else had these problems? Trying to run Zope like this: bin/python z2.py -p /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/zope.pcgi all I get in return is a new bash prompt wiht no warnings. the log files are empty or don't exist. Please help! BTW, don't mean to knock mailing lists but wouldnt forums be a lot easier way to communicate? Just a thought...