Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: <description of my authentication problems> In the continuing series of talking to myself in public, I've worked backward through my personal problem list. It was time for me to get ANY user authentication working, and I've now done it. Since I couldn't get any of the various authentications to work, even the most basic via ZopeHHTPServer, I figured I must be getting something quite basic wrong - so I poked around and came up with me misunderstanding the manage_users role interface! I was creating users with _no_ roles, since I didn't realize I was looking at multi-select list that required roles to be highlighted. Silly me, everything's hunky-dory now. Ross -- Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu> NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer Computer and Information Technology Institute Rice University, 6100 S. Main St., Houston, TX 77005