hello all i have a product that subclass CatalogPathAwareness and SimpleItem all works ok. i,e an object instance will be added and deleted from the catalog however, if i override manage_beforeDelete, the catalog is not cleared when i delete the object instance is that natural? do i have to supply my own uncatalog_object ? with this snippet, it still doesnt work. i guess i don't get what uid for uncatalog_object is ... here's the snippet def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container): """method for delete /cut/paste/rename""" img_dir = getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images') img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image']) self.uncatalog_object(item.absolute_url(1)) thanks -- http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org Am I Evil?