<rant> This is such a bunch of bullshit. I am so tired of "the answer is out there somewhere, why can't you find it yourself?" being the justification for not helping people who ask reasonable questions. To add insult to injury Asad was being quite courteous (e.g. he went so far as to thank you for your initial response) and you guys just start jumping all over him. Please explain to me why the mailing list should be a solution-of-last-result??? After all, you can find the solution to every question by looking at the Zope source code...ergo, all questions to the mailing list are a waste of time because the person didn't have the time to go picking through the source code? Personally, I am more than happy to help people with questions if I know the answer off the top of my head. ***What is the big deal?!?*** Just because the answer exists somewhere doesn't mean I expect people to spend lots of their time (**which is valuable too by the way**) to go digging it out. Zope (and Plone) are very complicated systems and not all of us hack the source code to Zope on a daily basis so we don't know all the "ins and outs". If you consider it a waste of your time to answer our questions then DON'T, but there is no need to insult us. I don't know if you noticed but they don't exactly have the mindshare or marketshare of other solutions and I don't think that is likely to change when people come here looking for answers and get nothing but grief. I've said it many times before...if you can't be constructive just don't say anything. You are poisoning this community with this nonsense. In my opinion, the level or arrogance and stubbornness to help on the part of some people on this mailing list is really disgraceful and I can't believe others on this list don't feel the same way. </rant> -- Mike
-----Original Message----- From: zope-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces@zope.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Jung Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:32 PM To: Asad Habib; Andreas Jung Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Session Timeout
--On Freitag, 24. September 2004 12:21 Uhr -0400 Asad Habib <ahabib@engin.umich.edu> wrote:
Ah, so I see how it is. It takes two to pick on one. Well, who has more spare time on their hands, those who post messages to the list asking for help, or those who post messages shunning others that ask for help? Both of you could do us all a favor by keeping your worthless comments to yourself.
It's all about using existing resources e.g. the Zope Book. People have spend a lot of time producing documentation. So don't complain if you don't want to use it.
-aj
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