Forgive me I'm a newbie- also not too up on UNIX or Apache (taking the Crash course here...) Have a virtual private server on FreeBSD behind Apache. Installed Zope, got it working with one of my virtual hosts, thanks to the docs. Was working in the VH and accidentally created a DTML method that called itself- infinite loop- and before I could stop that, BAM! The database gets wiped out back to the install version with nothing. I go into Undo (probably unwise move here, but I was upset) and try to back out of the install, thinking that somehow a new install got triggered. This was last Friday. since then I've tried everything I can to ./stop ./start, reinstall, uninstall, use zpasswd to change the access and inituser files, comment out LoadModule line for FastCGI, etc. Zope, some version is still running but I cannot log in- period. Read in an FAQ somewhere that, uh, now I can't remember what it told me to do, something about permissions. Then I saw something about both Zope and Apache needing permissions for PCGI, or at read / write on zope.soc with fastCGI. Any help greatly appreciated. Eyepopping Design dave@eyepopping.com www.eyepopping.com 585.229.4556