Hi there, it's me again. Thanks for all your hints with the date converting thing. Today I have another question: I have I ZClassed subclassed by DTMLDocument. My target is to initialize a number of DTML documents with some properties. No problem so far. But how on earth do I simply VIEW this document??? It's simple, plain HTML / DTML. Why isn't there a standard method activated on the Views tab in the ZClass? I tried to write such a method myself - without success. Let's say, the final instance's name is myDoc, then the following as class method works: <dtml-var myDoc> Of course, I would also give out the properties! But I don't know how the instance's name will be, when I write the class method! I tried things like: <dtml-var "_['id']()"> Because this is obviously what I want to do: Just call the DTML doc. I also tried <dtml-call "_.getitem('id')()"> and similar things - didn't work. I think I am completely blind, I'm doing something totally wrong, but I don't know what. Could you please help me another time? Thousand Thanks Lars