YB: Maybe we shouldn't talk about a true way, but about a *preferred* way. DM: But your preferences are not necessary mine and mine even vary with context... I understand your examples and I see your point. DM: I am very happy with the community's democratic nature. I would not like a dictator that decides on whether a product can or can not be on the products list. I agree! DM: But I would welcome [1] an annotation service, where users of a product can comment in such a way that other users learn about their experiences (something like the reader reviews on Amazon.com). And maybe, [2] a preference rank for products in a group may help (something like the purchase rank on Amanzon.com) automatically determined from the number of downloads or derived from some explicit rating. All I've been trying to achieve was to get an improvement on how to retrieve whatever you need for a certain goal. I think the current documentation isn't clear enough in this matter. I _do_ what I'm missing, but, because of my lack of experience, I didn't know (still don't) how it can be solved. While following the postings on the list I have the feeling this also applies to others. Maybe this improvement can be achieved by your [1] and [2] solutions! If others agree: Who'll set it up? (and how?) DM: PS: you could learn to strip your quotings down a bit. I'll try... ;-) Yvon PS: "If others agree" --> Because I think the community should support it to make it use- & succesfull.