Sorry for the off-topic subject, but I figure there are a fair few people on this list who have experience/interest in this. It's quite a common feature of websites. I'm trying to find the most cross-platform, and most gracefully degrading drop-down/pop-out menu system. The solutions I've found and come up with so far are: - http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/menubar/ Has problems and strange behaviour in Konqueror. It half works, which is worse than not working at all as it leads to very ungraceful degradation. - http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ Hasn't failed so far. Seems a good choice. - Flash menus Can be pretty certain about how they'll look in all browsers, and with some flash-sniffing, you can make other arrangements when necessary. - http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/hiermenus/ Doesn't seem to work at all well in Konqueror. At the moment, I'm leaning towards the Brothercake widget as my designer sees problems with having potentially 'very tall flash movies' when there are lots of items in the drop down. Has anyone used any of the approaches I mention above? Please share experiences. Got any other ideas? cheers, tim