hi, situation: i'm trying to set up a site with two distinct users - anonymous and member - just like the zope org. problem: with user db - it can only be one level off root dir (e.g. Register). authentication is ok. the only thing is i get AUTHENTICATED_USER as anonymous user on other folders except the user db folder. i guess i need to acquire to the root dir. how could i approach that? removing the default user folder at root and moving the user db to root didnt help much. it locks off users. with user folder - i can't figure out how to authenticate thru a form. what do i need to compare? if only i can have a peek at what happen when i log in at the zope site.. i did look at logged_in.html - but can't see where the authentication takes place. what to call, etc. sorry if this is too simple. i searched thru the archive, but no relevant answers to my Q. i did came accross Michel's point about membership. is it available now? tia