Sitting in limbo on this. I've followed the Install and Documentation to a T. I've ./install -u 'normaluser" i've set permission as the documentation advised. on the var directory to allow 'nobody' permission as well as on the 'inituser' This was so that i could ./start as root. This is so I culd serve pages through apache at a later date. For right now I am happy to let Zserver serve the Pages. When I run ./start everything looks like it starts fine. http started ftp started one more line about pcgi (even though I didn't ./start -p) and that is it. everything looks like it starts fine but when I try to go to http://mymachine.com:8080 or mymachine:8080/manage nothing comes up. Do I need to install PYTHON first? I thought binaries came with a precompiled python. I've been dealing with this for two weeks now with no progress. I would really appreciate any assistance on this. I can AIM if necessary. thnx. peace and balance J Tell Your Story to the World Make A Difference - Make TV www.cameraplanet.com Expose Yourself