This happens from time to time and I've never really understood how it ends up like this. There's no zopeinstance/var/zopectlsock socket which means that zopectl stop|restart|start just spits out "daemon manager not running" When in fact, Zope is running. It's there when you run `netstat -nptl` and you can go to the. If I do go in to http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/manage_main and Shutdown the next time I'll be able to use zopectl happily. Does anybody know what's going on with and why it goes missing? I have a vague suspicion that it might have something to do with my init.d restart script and rebooting of the server but I could be wrong. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com