Zopists, I have a secure site and trying to secure a part of the site so that only those with the role of system admin coulds access. One special page has the following code the uses a 'with' tag to include a parent environment: <!--#var standard_html_header--> <H2><!--#var document_title--></H2> <P> <b>Available Documents:</b><p> <table border=1> <!--#with gestalt --> <!--#in displaylinks --> <tr> <td><a href="<!--#var protocol-->://<!--#var host--><!--#var path-->/<!--#var name-->"><!--#var title--></a></td> </tr> <!--#/in--> <!--#/with--></P> </table> <!--#var standard_html_footer--> The parent object has the following permission settings: Roles Acquire permission settings? Anonymous Manager Sysadmin User no View yes yes no Access Cont. info yes yes no Open close DB conn yes yes no use SQL methods the rest are set to acquire .... the role sysadmin is declared in the gestalt object.. Do you what am I doing wrong? Fredy Villa FVilla@GestaltTechnology.com