I have a Product I'm creating (python, not Zclass). I thought that I could get the parent object of an instance of my product using the aq_parent method. But AFAIKT, this only works on an "acquisition wrapper" of an object - not on the object itself?? Example: try this in Boring product: class BrokenBoring( OFS.SimpleItem.Item, # A simple Principia object. Not Folderish. Persistent, # Make us persistent. Yaah! Acquisition.Implicit, # Be able to find things via acquisition. AccessControl.Role.RoleManager # Security manager. ): """ Can't acquire the parent... fooey. """ meta_type = 'Boring' # what do people think they're adding? (snip) def __init__(self, id, title=''): """initialise a new instance of Boring""" (snip) try: assert hasattr(self, "aq_parent") except: print "Hey! This instance can't acquire parent!!" When you add one of these in a folder, it prints the exception message in the log. In other words ... no aq_parent. So I guess I need to get an acquisition wrapper to self, so I can acquire its parent? How do I do that? I can't figure it out from the DevGuide. Or Is there a less bletcherous solution? Help! -- paul winkler home: http://www.slinkp.com music: http://www.reacharms.com calendars: http://www.calendargalaxy.com