Hi all, I'm new to Zope, getting started with the "minimal" project (http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/minimal_01). For whatever reason, minimal doesn't work out of the box. That would be fine except that when I start Zope with zopectl it reports status as fine and the process runs, but I don't get any logs generated and I can't connect to the server. But, if I use runzope I can see what's wrong and the server dies immediately: File "/var/lib/zope/zope-test/Products/minimal/__init__.py", line 8, in initialize constructors = ( AttributeError: manage_addMinimalForm My concern isn't this error, which I fixed by importing the function explicitly. But why did I have to use runzope to see this? Shouldn't zopectl inform me that the server is completely broken? By the way, I'm using a standard Gentoo installation of Zope, and I haven't changed any options from defaults. Could someone please tell me if this is expected behavior? Should I be using runzope in a screen or something? Thanks, Konrad