Just a quick question about Zope/Plone logins and security etc. When I go to www.domain.com:8080/manage I get a login box which seems to function in exactly the same way as the www.domain.com:8080/login_form page. My question is, what was the rational for implementing this logon strategy in Zope as it obviously acts as authentication and authorisation but falls down on confidentiality and data integrity? Also would there be any plans at all in the future to make this logon process authenticate, be confidential and have integrity? I know that you can do it in Apache etc but for most people that's probably quite a big step. Most people probably reckon that the appearance of the logon box makes their site secure. I'm only talking about the logon areas here, etc. Thanks Michael