I have an older Zope install and i want to enable searching of Page Templates and PDFs. Because it's an older Zope version (2.8.5) I have had to go back a few revisions of TextIndexNG3 (3.1.16) and Five (1.2.6) Install seems fine including setup of the extensions modules. I create a textIndexNG Index called PrincipiaSearchSource, Converters show that pdftotext is available and HTML to ASCII is 'always' available. I find all Page Templates and PDFs and Catalog them. They do show up in the Catalog, but the Page Templates have all their HTML tags included in the catalog(I thought they would be stripped automagically) and the PDFs have no words cataloged at all. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Erik Myllymaki Zope Version (Zope 2.8.5-final, python 2.3.5, linux2) Python Version 2.3.5 (#1, Jan 3 2006, 23:22:48) [GCC 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-52)] System Platform linux2 SOFTWARE_HOME /usr/local/Zope-2.8.5/lib/python ZOPE_HOME /usr/local/Zope-2.8.5 Five (Installed product Five (Five 1.2.6)) TextIndexNG3 (Installed product TextIndexNG3 (3.1.16))