Hi I have the following breadcrumbs method: <dtml-in PARENTS reverse> <dtml-with PARENTS> <dtml-if sequence-start> <a href="/nbs_online" class='cyan_link'>Home</a> <dtml-else> <dtml-if sequence-end><dtml-else>›› <a href="<dtml-var absolute_url>" class='cyan_link'><dtml-var title_or_id></a> </dtml-if> </dtml-if> </dtml-with> </dtml-in> The problem is when I am in a folder: a\b\c\d\index_html My breadcrumbs only displays a - b - c quite obviously because I only list the parents and it goes for d as the base node and lists all its parents Now if index_html is a dtml document shouldnt it consider that as the base object and then list all of its parents as a true breadcrumbs should?? What do I have to do to get that kind of thing going?? I think that the solution is to add the following in the end of the breadcrumbs: (in pseudo..) if calling_object not folder: list the containing folder How then do I get the information required to the the abovementioned.... namely: calling_object & containing_folder (which would merely be calling_object.parent)?? TIA AM -- ================================================================== Aseem Mohanty Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231 ================================================================== "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped right there!!" -- Steve Gonedes ==================================================================