Glad to hear I can do a lot without coding in Python. However I am still lost. Url's did not work for me. I am running windows 98. Zope Website folder? Is that a folder on the Zope web site or a folder titled website in what I dowloaded? If the latter I cannot find it. Zope runs as a service?? You mean Zope becomes my ISP? Or something like that? Still lost, but encouraged to hear that it is easier than Python. I am getting somewhere with Python, slowly. So I guess I might somewhere with Zope not so slowly. If only I can install it and find the start button. :) *********************************************************************************************************************************** Zope normally runs as a service - the only thing you get to see is the web (and other server) interfaces - try:- http://localhost:8080 - for a quick intro http://localhost:8080/manage - for the management interface This is assuming you are on Win NT or 2K and you local machien resolves to localhost (if not try substituting 127.0.0.1 for localhost in the above URLs), and have chosen to run Zope as a service - if it's not running as a service or you are on Win 9x, look for start.bat in the Zope Website folder, run that and try those URLs... --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.