Hi Tres. I duplicated your actions on FC3. Just redownloaded to FC3, gunzipped and tar -xvf'd and built with no problems at all. The exact same file, unbundled using WinZip 8 or TurboZip 5.1 on W2K Server or XP Pro seems to give a very different result, which seems to be what Paul is seeing. I have attached a zip of the results for analysis. A lot is missing when unbundled in this way-- not sure why. I've never seen problems opening a gz/tar file with either of these software before. cygwin could gunzip the file, but not untar it. The answer seems to be use native gunzip and tar to open this. Paul-- can I assume that you tried to unbundle on Windows-- if not what OS and distribution? Harlow Pinson Indepth Learning Email: hpinson@indepthl.com Web: http://www.indepthl.com Voice: 505-994-2135 FAX: 208-475-7678