I already found a solution for this but I'm asking to see if there might be another way to do this? I need to save a referens to a acquision wrapped object "Configure" in a object which at some point doesn't have it's own context (just a single wrapped object). I save this volatile and always uniquely for each REQUEST object (see CMF skinable for an example). Just assigning it to the attribute self._v_skinfolder=sf and the accessing it as self.skinfolder makes it contained in the object (aq_chain would say [<Skinfolder>, <Object>]) But by saving it as a tuple: self._v_skinfolder=(sf,) it's not directly contained in the <Object> so when accessing it self.skinfolder[0] it's returned with its original context. Is there anyway to make uncontained attributes of an object that inherits Acquisision.Implicit? Cheers, Johan Carlsson -- Johan Carlsson Tel: + 46 8 31 24 94 Colliberty Mob: + 46 70 558 25 24 Torsgatan 72 Email: johanc@easypublisher.com SE-113 37 STOCKHOLM