Hi there! Since we upgraded to Zope 2.0.0b4, I have major troubles with "manage_clone" in a product which worked fine before. Whenever I try using it, I get permission errors, even the superuser cannot use the method that worked fine before. Assuming I did something wrong, I took the Zope Content Manager Guide and typed the Plutonia example in again. It uses "manage_clone" as I do in my product. I ran this example, and hey! It did not work and gave the same weired "ApplicationDefaultPermissions" errors and stuff like that. I tried login as a superuser, and again I got authorization errors. First of all I though the error must have to do with wrong permission settings of my role, but than the superuser should not get an error, right? I also don't understand the new "mapping" permissions in the products since Zope2. Any clarification? Thanks, Floyd -- http://floyd.va.com.au