Does the 'null' tag in <dtml-var null="..."> actually work for anyone? I set it to put ' ' (among other things) in for a database query i'm working on, but it doesn't do anything. I get no output for that var no matter what's in the null tag. the documentation says: For this reason, the null attribute can be used to specify text to be inserted for null values. Null values are defined as values which: o Cannot be formatted with the specified format, and o Are either the special Python value None or are false and yield an empty string when converted to a string. The value itself yields an empty string as far as I can tell. Thanks -- pity this busy monster, manunkind, | Dennis Moore | Sarah not. Progress is a comfortable disease. | rainking@frenzy.com | McLachlan -e.e. cummings: One Times One | archon on the irc | "Black" If I cried me a river of all my confessions would I drown in my shallow regret?