I have to agree with Andy here. Not that any of you know who I am... People should be allowed to make their own decisions based on their needs. In my case, I have absolutely no need for interoperability with design program like DreamWeaver. I do need sophisticated data queries. I also need it done quickly. For me, ZPT was far too odd and incomplete to meet my needs. Sure, DTML is weird. So is C, C++, Python (Yes, it is. Don't argue), Perl, Java, Forth, Lisp, Pascal... It's all a matter of perspective and experience. All languages have booster and detractors. Most of us are just trying to get our work done and try to keep the religious arguments at home. I have no issue with you telling folks you love ZPT and how great they are or warning them that they might not meet their future needs. I'd love to have examples of how DTML will not support my future work and how ZPT is better. But it's a different matter altogether to claim they are on the way out when they aren't. Charlie "I'm using DTML and I'm OK." Reiman
-----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Chris Withers Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:17 AM Cc: Zope@Zope. Org Subject: Re: [Zope] DTML or TAL
Andy McKay wrote:
Oh give it a rest Chris. And we wonder why people get worried about DTML going away. Its not. If it did Zope would fork, but its not.
History will tell ;-)
Sure, it'll be there for backwards compatability, but I will not "give it a rest" when it comes to trying to persuade new users to use something that may well persuade them not to use Zoep at all.
The number of people I've seen confused by DTML's idiosyncracies, confused namespace and excessive implicitness means that I'm not gonna just stand by while people do the equivalent of pointing someone wearing a blindfold towards the edge of a cliff...
cheers,
Chris
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