There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB. http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived. J Might be better to have a more formal declaration of the dependencies on versions of products relied upon at the download pages -- for some products this has become a tricky and madning process to make sure all the versions are correct for a product to run. This is natural in the progress of Zope and Zope products and will become even more and issue as Zope matures even further. This can be formalized. I do like the way SGI does some of this. Just my cents (sense). Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@vpatch.com