If any of you Windows developers are interrested in trying out Zope 3 from the CVS, this might make it easier. How To run current Zope 2 & 3 from CVS on Windows http://www.mxm.dk/papers/run-z3-cvs-wthout-compiler/ This how-to tells how to run Zope 2 (Z2) and Zope 3 (Z3) from CVS on Windows, without access to a compiler. This probably most relevant for Windows developers that wants to stay current with Z3. Though releases are made once in a while for Z3, they are quickly outdated. So if you want to develop on it, or just try it out, you need to download it from CVS. This can be a problem for Windows developers that do not have Microsofts Visual Studio installed. The reason is that Z3 must be compiled with the same compiler as the Python install. The ususal Python Windows distribution is compiled with VS 6.0, so if you want to run Z3 with your normal installer, it must be compiled with that. Without VS 6.0 installed, that is a bit of a jam for us lowly Windows developers. There are a few ways to get around it though, even without a compiler ... regards Max M