I'm still trying to add an instance of my "QuoteClass" object. Very simple. quotetext and person are the two fields. I can add a quote through the management interface, and I can randomly pull quotes from the database and display them. No problem. Of course, the problem I'm having is adding the instances programatically, through DTML. I've separated the stuff out a bit, and have discovered that <dtml-with "manage_addProduct['QuoteProduct']"> is probably what is causing the error. I'm getting an error of: Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: _u and the following traceback Traceback (innermost last): File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 179, in publish File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 201, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ElementWithAttributes) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 165, in publish File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: addquote) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 102, in call_object (Object: addquote) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\OFS\DTMLMethod.py, line 145, in __call__ (Object: addquote) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ (Object: addquote) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_With.py, line 148, in render (Object: PARENTS[-1]) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_With.py, line 148, in render (Object: quotes) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_With.py, line 148, in render (Object: manage_addProduct['QuoteProduct']) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Util.py, line 321, in eval (Object: QuoteClass_add(_.None, _, NoRedir=1)) File <string>, line 0, in ? File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\OFS\DTMLMethod.py, line 141, in __call__ (Object: QuoteClass_add) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ (Object: QuoteClass_add) File C:\Program Files\tarheel\lib\python\App\FactoryDispatcher.py, line 126, in DestinationURL AttributeError: (see above) If anybody can help me figure out what the H is going wrong, I'd appreciate it. I'm building this site in spare time while I run my bookstore, and my wife hogs the currently connected box selling books online, so I do most of my work on an unconnected Linux box in VGA mode. My week's worth of 10 minutes at a time studying of Zope hasn't solved my problem. I need help. Dave Allen Walker The Book Exchange Warehouse Sanford, NC paperbacks.homepage.com