Hi I have the following in a method <dtml-with text_repository> <dtml-with "_['text_container_' + new_id]"> <dtml-with "manage_addProduct['MyTextClasses']"> <dtml-call "my_text_add(_.None, _, NoRedir=1)"> </dtml-with> </dtml-with> </dtml-with> The idea here is that a few levels back I have a folder called text_repository. The method that the obove comes from is called by a form that sets the variable new_id. I have already created another folder in text_repository called text_container_new_id .... where new_id is variable, and there are many of them. The method above starts throwing namespaces on the stack and then creates an instance of a text ZClass that I have made. It all works nicely, but seems an rather nasty way to do it. What are preferred ways of doing this ? and is this really something that people feel is better in an external method as opposed to a dtml method. The reason why I am backtracking all over the place is because I tend to put my methods and forms into a sub folder, which may not be the best idea. I.e. the hierachy is somwhat as follows : text_main /text_methods/text_add_form_method text_main /text_methods/text_accept_method(which is where above snippet is from) text_main/text_repository/ text_main/text_repository/text_container_15562/ text_main/text_repository/text_container_15562/text_ZClass_instance1 text_main/text_repository/text_container_15562/text_ZClass_instance2 regards Matt