This is going to be a long winded questions. Ok I have been hacking around with Zope and Pgsql for awhile now. I am trying to learn both at the same time, not any easy task, I don't know SQL that well. I learn by doing ,and this is really fun, kinda like a digital puzzle of sorts. So any way I set up a database in pgsql to hold contact information. This was no small task for me, like I said, I am new to SQL. I did discover a neat way to use CREATE VIEW foo AS SELECT that is not in the book though. Anyway the PRIMARY KEY for the table of names is a SERIAL type, all other tables such as phone numbers and addresses use REFERENCES to this KEY. The database works quite well, I think I have it normalize as much as need be (bare with me I am still learning). Now on to Zope I have Zope all set, and I can run all your standard SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE stuff. But I have one hitch, I can't seem to figure out how to make it so an end user could add a name and email address without knowing about the PKEY number. This is no problem for a DBA but I want to make it easy for anyone to INSERT and UPDATE records. Did I make a bad design choice in use unique numbers to glue all the tables together. Is this an interface problem. Am I missing something. I need some help. Can someone point me in the right direction please? Richard