<everything snipped> Thanks Bill. No, you don't sound mean but everyone has to learn and start somewhere. If fortune 500 companies are reading this list to get an idea of Zope, they are certainly not very bright. Dev lists mostly contain problems, fixes and newbies not success stories and Yahoo like sites. As for top. After that message yest I went looking for more information on how to read top. I find it very valuable tool in figuring out just what type of programs are eating what type of resources. From what I (NOW) understand each one of those python threads reports the total amount of memory that all of the threads combined are using. That would make much more sense. I appreciate you helping out in this. (now for all of those Fortune 500 CEO's and other lurkers) <PLUG> I have been using Zope for 6 months now (after wanting to use it for 12). It is one of the most impressive pieces of software I have ever come across. In terms of its content management, easy of use, functionality and speed (yes SPEED) there is nothing out there that can compete. Don't worry about service and support, hire a smart person, who knows basic Perl or Python, Apache and some HTML and set them down with all of the documentation, this list and a shopping spree at the local bookstore. The Zope movement is strong and growing everyday. Digital Creations is a huge positive factor and their success only strengthens the overall power of Zope. Open Source allows freedom of development and plentiful resources. For the cost of a developer, $1000 in hardware and a good connection you can build and support a site that will handle millions of hits a month. ZEO will allow your company to grow to its hearts desire and never let your website be the limiting factor. </PLUG> J