I'm working on some desktop 'product', which consists of .NET UI client and Zope server both running on the *same* Windows computer. Zope provides storage, publishing and (maybe) security, .NET client provides the 'neat' UI and some other things. Yesterday, I found the rather old rant by Dave Winer : http://davenet.userland.com/2001/01/04/desktopWebsites He is excited about the 'Desktop Website'. I don't quite understand what is he *really* talking about - the rant is rather fuzzy. As to Radio itself - I don't *really* like it (I tried). However, I *do* see some scenarious, how can 'Desktop Website' may be interesting. I can elaborate of some scenarios, but I think that would be off-topic and may be misleading. Now the purpose of this RFC. I can fork a branch that would be someting like 'Zope for those, who have no dedicated server'. How it may look like. In the scenario described below, 'User' is some person connected to the Internet. The twist is that the person may be even on a dialup connection ( no static IP required, no DNS e t.c. ) 1. User downloads the .NET runtime to any Windows comp. User downloads and installs Windows Zope binary - pretty easy - any person can do that. 2. User downloads the tiny executable, which lives in a system tray and does some magic. Let's say that the executable looks almost exactly like Yahoo Messenger. (It displays your 'freinds'). The difference with yahoo messenger is that when you click on the 'friend' - you can *browse* the guy's Desktop Zope ( instead of, or together with sending the message ). Theoretically, that would allow communities of people to share the documents e t.c. even in the situation when there is no 'server'. With Desktop Zope - anybody has a server. Possibilities are endless, but some stuff I have in mind is *hard* to implement on this framework. What is *easy* to implement is : 1. Looks like Yahoo Mesenger 2. You can browse your friends who are online. 3. Eventually - I will simplify the product installation procedure, so that installing the new product into Desktop Zope would be a single click ( It is already relatively easy for some people, but I think that I know how to improve it significantly) The question I have : If the thing described above would exist today, would you install it ? The situation is that I have a dedicated server running Zope on a decent connection ( and the dedicated server also runs a *lot* of other things, including Java/XSLT e t.c. all playing together with Zope) so - for me - personally - it would not make much sense to go for Desktop Zope. However, I think that there may be some people out there who may like to play with Desktop Zope. So. If you are interested and/or know anybody who may be interested in the thing described above - could you please send me an email? If there would be few people willing to install the thing and to form a first tiny community ( say - 5 people? ) - then I would implement it and then - who knows... Thanks. Rgds.Paul. http://www.pault.com http://www.linkpot.com http://www.pault.com/hgrab