I'm excited to see that the Zope Portal Toolkit will be here soon. http://www.zope.org/Products/PortalToolkit/Tour/ Hopefully there are plans to "Walk the walk" with the Portal Toolkit for the Zope community. By this I mean, Subscribers to this mail list (and others) should be able to "Become a Member... by visiting a Zope portal home page..." What are the best ways to collaborate? Currently we have 3 zope mail lists that are also mirrored on the web based http://www.egroups.com/list/zope/ Can the ZOPE community benefit from actually using the Portal Toolkit for our collaboration here? ***--- So far, I prefer mail lists because I can organize them into folders and search using my EMail Client. I see a benefit and occasionally use the web based egroups copy when I'm not at my primary computer. It looks like the product KnotMail, shown as part of the Portal toolkit could perform many if not all the functionality of my e-mail client but be on THE server so I can access it anywhere with any browser. *Are there specs for KnotMail? -Can mail automatically be routed to specific folders? -Can mail messages be moved, copied or flagged? -Can full text searches be performed on mail (subject & body) and limited by date? -Can I maintain a ".mailproto" file so I can BOUNCE From SpamKing@aol.com DISCARD From sales@competitor.com FORWARD To . bob@rocnet.com Currently I can flag messages of interest. What about multiple flags, what about viewing messages in threaded order? What about mail list messages that remain on the server that allow me to mark my personal view of messages into various categories: (Example:) 1)Total Trash -- I never want to see it again or any future messages from ___ 2) Total Trash -- I never want to see it again 2) Keep in distant archive 3) Keep - reference 3) Keep - Interesting 4) Important - Keep in current folder ***--- Some Mail could evolve into a slashdot.org type format such as Story and Comments. I really like the way that comments are moderated and promoted and demoted on a scale -1,0,1,2,3,4,5 Then, a user can set a threshold so that only the "best" messages (just 4's and 5's for example) are viewed. ***--- WebDav has been discussed but this seems to have a place when collaborating on documentation but not for general discussion. (I admit to knowing little about WebDav and would love to see a working example) ***--- By the way, I really don't like Newsgroups... mostly because of the "noise". Recently on another MailList that I subscribed to the managers wanted to go to Newsgroup from MailList format and member OVERWELMINGLY rejected the plan. Also, newsgroups are often not available inside firewalls. So what is the big picture? What do other Zopers think? -Bob OConnor bob@rocnet.com