Whether or not you are fans of Flash, IMHO the writing is on the wall for something like it. SVG For example see the maturing SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) draft at W3C: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ and the Concordia web site: http://indy.cs.concordia.ca/svg/main.html I read this as a response to the 3 main submission they received: 1) Microsoft 2) Adobe PGML 3) Macromedia openSWF Microssft just 'get' graphics...but htey are trying Adobe focused on leveraging their document layout approach PDF_XML_WEB Macromdedia plough ahead with traubng to gain maximum eyeballs (77 million players+ downloaded) and a _highly_compressed format with strong interactivity, sound and straeming built-in. Macromedia has the clear edge in performance and installed platform userbase at present ...but things could change rapidly especially if such a multimedia ssytem coudl be dveloped with a more flexible web object model, XML, openSource (ahem-: sound familiar?)... "SVG is a language for describing two-dimensional vector and mixed vector/raster graphics in XML. SVG is designed to work well across platforms, output resolutions, colour spaces, and a range of available bandwidths." I am happy to note from the updated SVG page, that it looks like a good harvest this year :-) Lots of SVG related developments including: Chris Lilley's talk 'XML meets Graphicss' http://www.w3.org/Talks/1999/09/14-SVG-XMLWorld/slide1.htm Sketch, an illustration program for Unix-like systems ( Linux, Solaris, BSD, AIX, IRIX) by Bernhard Herzog has SVG import and export support in version 0.62. Sketch is written in Python. http://www.online.de/home/sketch/Default.htm IBM's SVGView http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/svgview Mayura Draw http://www.mayura.com/ XHTML WITH MATHML AND SVG http://indy.cs.concordia.ca/kamthan/publ/xml-ns/index.html#xml_mathml_svg .... so where the Zope? - Jason ------------------------------------------------- Jason Cunliffe <jasonic@nomadicsltd.com> NOMADICS.STUDIO(Design Director) Geo-Digital Arts and Technology Le Vieux Moulin, Route de Mons 83440 SEILLANS, FRANCE Tel: +33 (0)4 94.76.98.72 Fax: +33 (0)4 94.76.97.77