Joe Thanks very much for your excellent and lucid post. It strikes me that most/all of your arguments extend beyond learning, to apply for any community or long-term growth context/applications. Also as recomended background reading for E-commerce discussions [as we saw here last week].. BTW, do you ever tune into the EDU-SIG list, which discusses CP4E [Computer Programming For Everyone] and related threads such as CPFF[Computer Programming For Fun]. Thought the prime focus is use of Python, in practice the discusssions are often quite far-reaching, other times highly focused on pragmatic technical issues. Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig good luck with all your work - Jason ___________________________________________________________ Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS['Interactive Art and Technology'] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Nicholls" <joe.nicholls@zweb.co.uk> To: <zope@zope.org>; <linde@inline-info.nl> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope in academic/educational/scientific environments (important) Forgive me, a long post I'm afraid, but I don't get the opportunity to reply on this list to something I know a little about. I could have just sent this to Henny, but hopefully it will be of interest to others. The Learning Technology group at the University of Wales College of Medicine (UWCM) has been developing with Zope since early 1999. I work with Phil Harris the principal Zope aficionado amongst us. I sit between him and the rest of the College. So, I know less about Zope and more about the organisational / educational issues. [ ...snip great article... ]