Does it even *work*? Even a little bit? Because other than repeating the same process 12 damn times, so far I'm not convinced. Maybe I'll look in the source code to see if there's actually anything in the files (other than a HOWTO.txt, which is empty, which BTW is more annoying than there not being one). The "LoginManager with SQL database" on the Zope site seems to end up with me having a folder I can't access through the management interface (unless you count "management" as "this is the index_html" document) Wow, thanks! Now I have to delete it and start all over again... In all seriousness - there *must* be one person who has gotten an SQL-backed LoginManger working with 2.2.4 - surely? Thanks for all the great work (little bugs aside...) - Zope is a wonderful product! Now if only it could serve XML as well as Cocoon... Regards, Phil +----------------------------------+ | Phil Mayers, Network Support | | Centre for Computing Services | | Imperial College | +----------------------------------+