Hey, Chris: No worries, man; no more gargantuan e-mails from me, that i promise. I'll be brief (leaving off the overwrought analogies should save mucho time:) |/|/ on 4/5/01 3:49 PM, Chris McDonough at chrism@digicool.com wrote:
I'd *love* to see this project scoped out.
Oh, good. |/|/
I just bristle at the notion that *DC* absolutely, incontravertably has to "own" it
Nobody has to own anything they don't want, of course. I've been talking all along in terms of *shared* ownership -- until your remark about me wanting you to mow *my* lawn. At that point, all the air went out of my "let's scope-out this problem together" balloon. |/|/
We've decided to concentrate on the content management space, which has so far only proved to be tangentially related to ecommerce. If you don't like this, I'm sorry, and we'll need to agree to disagree.
In fact i applaud this focus (did so explicitly in my mini-SWOT analysis). I just thought, this being the ZCommerce list and all... y'know, maybe it might be ok to bat the old e-commerce ball around a bit here. Guess i wandered into the wrong place; s'cuse me! |/|/
Furthermore, I don't even think you and Albert are talking about the same problem. I believe Albert is talking specifically about porting ACS' ecommerce module to Zope. You want collaborative filtering and personalization. They aren't necessarily even related. We've been talking about OpenACS' ecommerce module as if it's the holy grail, but are you sure it solves your actual problem?
I stopped looking for the holy grail in technology circles many moons ago. But i've been around this game long enough that i can match solutions up with problems as well as most solution-buyers. OpenACS is no cure-all, but it does solve a lot of problems that Zope doesn't, which problems have for me (and many others, from what i gather) grown to the point of warranting (additional) investment. |/|/
Have you thought about what it doesn't have that you want?
Yes. |/|/
To address the rest of your mail, I don't doubt your experience nor do I think that having a Zope "ecommerce story" is a bad idea. My problem is understanding how it's possible that DC *needs* to do this.
Nobody needs to do anything about anything, in fact. You do what you do, ignore what you ignore. And there are consequences. |/|/
Do you think we're just a bunch of guys sitting around without a plan who need to have some structure put in to our lives or what?
No. |/|/
I will reiterate that Zope is a platform. You can build on it what you like. Please, go ahead! Don't wait for us!
- C
Got it loud and clear. Next business problem i see that seems to warrant my investment, i know who not to consult. Thanks for the time/money-saving pointer, Chris. |/|/alt Walter Ludwick wludwick@mail.walmar.com