So... it seems like the current proposal(s) suggest adding: zope-newbies zope-adm zope-db zope-um zope-ws well... I can see zope-db (lots of db specific traffic), and even zope-newbies. I'm not sure there's been enough traffic on user managers to justify it's own list. I think a zope-adm might be OK if it subsumed zope-ws, as I imagine it's administrators that care about web servers. I personally see a danger in picking lists based on audience (as opposed to topic), as it makes it harder to know "is this for/about administrators or what?"). by the same token, perhaps a newbie-specific place is good so that people can ask questions and not get lost in the crowd of them. So, for now, I propose adding: Zope-RDB (relational databases and zope) Zope-newbies (new to zope? sign up here for help) If that doesn't let the pressure off, perhaps we can consider more. -- -mindlace- zopatista community liason