I'm have problems with a ZClass I'm working on that uses Folder as it's base class and is supposed to install a set of default methods when it's created. The trouble is that it won't when the webDirectory is created, but it will when I invoke the same method from a tab afterwards. Here's the body of webDirectory_add: <dtml-with "webDirectory.createInObjectManager(REQUEST['id'], REQUEST)"> <dtml-if createDefaultMethods> <dtml-in "default_methods.objectIds()"> <dtml-try> <dtml-call "manage_delObjects(ids=[_['sequence-item']])"> <dtml-except> </dtml-try> <dtml-call "manage_clone( _.getattr(default_methods, _['sequence-item']), _['sequence-item'], REQUEST)"> </dtml-in> </dtml-if> </dtml-with> I'm assuming that the code within the <dtml-with ...> is effectively opperating in the context of the newly created object, but when the first manage_clone() is executed, it bombs out in _getCopy, tripping over on this line: ob=container._p_jar.importFile(f) ...because whatever container is, it's not a folderish object. So what do I need to do to switch to the new webDirectory object at creation time, so adding methods is automatic? Thanks, John.