Hi all, I'm working on a product that renders treemenu's for websites. Now I have to get an initlevel as starting point for my menu. I've tried the following: def __init__(self, id, title='', initlevel=0): """initialize a new instance of SiteNav""" self.id = id self.title = title self.initlevel = self.getInitLevel() def getInitLevel(self): """returns the initlevel""" initlevel = 0 parent = self while 1: if hasattr(parent,'aq_parent'): parent=parent.aq_parent initlevel = initlevel + 1 else: break return initlevel - 1 When I add a SiteNav object (folderish object) and I put a DTMLMethod in it where I call getInitLevel, I get the correct initlevel. But when I ask for initlevel in the DTMLMethod, I get -1. Doesn't the object has a aq_parent at initialization? Is there a way to do this? Thanx! Greetz Nico