LocalFS ZopeShortCut both very nice, useful & work with 2.9.x, 2.10.x .......................................................................... Zope.org is a scary sad stupid mess, BUT yes it's also full of useful stuff But oh boy its some tlc and some web2.0 commonsense interface friendliness Like add a form so people can flag and comment notes and version goodness and trouble METADATA for fucksakes.. Then one could actually sort and search for products in more useful, less time consuming random way. But then it would'nt be zope if you did'nt need hope right Things that would be really useful to know: list/sort/search products by -- "last date product was updated" [then you could narrow to only within 1 year . If no good or some special need, widen the timerange.] -- "number of downloads" << this could be very useful indicator of aliviness or currrent validity -- "abandonned" << lots of products say that they are discontinued. Good to know. But if only that info were stored as metadata flag [with date of announcment], imagine ow uch easier it would be. -- "Plone dependencies" == packages needing some version of plone -- "Zope 3 dependencies" == products using Zope 3 -- "now hosted elseware" -- many are mainatained elsewere with newer versions etc -- "dead link" << WHY is it so hard for noble prize winning dynamic Zope to track a dead url, and save one all that extra hassle ??? Jason