Hi, I've been trying to install LoginManager (version 0.8.8 beta 1, and then version 0.8.6, ie: the last non-beta) on Zope 2.5 with ZPatterns 0.4.3 Beta 2 on Windows 2000. LoginManager shows up as a broken product. Here's the traceback I've been getting: Traceback (most recent call last): File "D:\Zope\lib\python\OFS\Application.py", line 531, in import_product product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly) File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\LoginManager\__init__.py", line 1, in ? import LoginManager, LoginMethods, UserSources File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\LoginManager\LoginManager.py", line 7, in ? from Products.ZPatterns.PlugIns import PlugInGroup File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\ZPatterns\__init__.py", line 1, in ? import Rack, Specialists, Customizers, AttributeProviders, SheetProviders File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\ZPatterns\Rack.py", line 1, in ? from DataManagers import DataManager File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\ZPatterns\DataManagers.py", line 6, in ? from AttributeProviders import AttributeProvider File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\ZPatterns\AttributeProviders.py", line 7, in ? from Expressions import * File "D:\Zope\lib\python\Products\ZPatterns\Expressions.py", line 38, in ? from DocumentTemplate.DT_Util import Eval, expr_globals, TemplateDict, \ ImportError: cannot import name expr_globals Does anyone know of a fix, or failing that a stable combination of LoginManager and ZPatterns which runs on Zope 2.5? Thanks Ross