the more I think I know the less I really do.. sorry about this but I've confused myself I want to run zope as user www. so in the start script I use "-u www". If I am root and run ./start & zope barfs on me and gives me the message that I need to read the setuid.txt file... okay. (I chowned all zope files to www:www) But I don't want to run zope as root, and zope won't listen on port 80.. so, back to running zope as user www. I can su to user www, run zope and all is well. terrific. Now I want to put a startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. So now I'm back to starting zope as root again right? How can I get the startup scripts to launch zope as user 'www'? I'm using freebsd and zope 2.6.? latest. -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing"