I am a person that is mostly technically and not visually oriented so I understand the "lets make it work and then we'll look how it looks" attitude very well. However this is a very dangerous approach. In theory it would work perfectly. In reality it seldom does. Very often (always ??) there is much more do do than we actually can and we have to start dropping things. What one drops depends on its priority. Which in itself does reflect our preferences. Since we are techies technicalities are top. Design goes down the pipe. The sad thing about it is that to sell something, even to us techies, its features are much less important than its "look and feel". If I take Zope's motto "Content management for half the price" and use the CMF-Dogbowl as a reference people will think "yes it shows". Nobody looks under the hood. Either its glossy or they keep on looking further. What I want to say with my epistle is this: Either visual design is of high priority from the very beginning or it will probably never be there.. Robert I am happy to help within my limited means .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Richter" <srichter@cbu.edu> To: "Andrew Sawyers" <andrew@zope.com> Cc: <zope-web@zope.org>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Come kick some tires, at new.zope.org
At 07:47 PM 10/10/2001 -0700, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
I'd be interested in proposed solutions rather then just pointing out criticisms; specifics such as Andy McKay pointed out , but include the solution to what the perceived problem is. I'm on your side, but we need more specifics to address your concerns.
Well, I think Joachim made it clear: Get a graphics designer and get a real design done! Look at the EuroZope.org proposal, that is what I call a site layout! (I did not choose the artist or was involved, so I am not bias.)
Regards, Stephan
-- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management
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