hey everybody, im new to zope, been trying to figure it out for about a week now.. and i keep getting this same error: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in publish File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 202, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 165, in publish File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_addetcUserFolder) File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in call_object (Object: manage_addetcUserFolder) File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/Products/etcUserFolder/etcUserFolder.py, line 419, in manage_addetcUserFolder (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File /usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py, line 760, in __getitem__ KeyError: (see above) everytime i try and add a new object. could somebody enlighten me as to what all this means and how i can figure out to to diagnose problems within zope ? oh and is there any decent documentation out there anywhere on zope ? -- .............................. ... ... .. .. . struggle@jps.net www.slothdog.com personal.shopping.pages