Hi, I'm trying to install zope for the first time on my home server. I'm using the 2.6 beta in a linux rh 7.2 environment and I've installed from source. I'm not a programmer, but a technical writer who finds the zope project interesting. I need to serve static pages and my cms from the same box, and I use 2 virtual hosts in apache. I'm a bit confused about the current error message and about my options for compatibility with apache. First, I plan to run it through apache. The install document included with the zope mentions two options: PCGI and fastcgi. Another helpful document http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache mentions two other options: proxypass and rewrite rules and even the virtual host monster. 1. From a performance point of view, how does fastcgi compare to proxypass and rewrite? 2. I'm unclear about the order in which you need to configure apache/virtual host monster. First, you install zope, then you do "start" to verify a successful install, then you configure apache, then you restart the start script. Right? . I'm guessing that zserver will launch by default if you haven't set anything up. I'm guessing that zope will still fire up even if your settings for proxypass or rewrite are wrong. Am I right? 3. When you're troubleshooting/testing, the only way to test/verify is by trying to access it through the browser, right? Well, aside from checking apache logs, of course. Now for my main problem. I installed and started for the first time. It has started zserver, but I can't access http://webserver:8080 or 8021. The ports don't seem to be open when I netstat -an. I'm guessing we are talking about a permissions problem (see below). When I ran the install script, I gave it a user name and group name of my apache web server ( ./install -u bobbyapache -g rjapache). I unzipped it as rj2nagle (user who belongs to groups rj2nagle and webperson) I installed it as root. It gave me an admin account with a generated password, which I checked to be working correctly with zpasswd. The main zope directory is owned by root and has the group webperson, of which rj2nagle is a member. So far I have run the program as root. Here is what I see. (at the end of the normal logging after running ./start ) 2002-10-08T04:44:35 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): Module __main__, line 831, in ? SystemExit: initgroups is required to safely setuid So what is going on? Thanks. Robert Nagle, Houston Texas *************************************************************************** WHEN I RUN START [root@idiotprogrammer Zope-2.6.0b1-linux2-x86]# ./start ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:29 INFO(0) zdaemon zdaemon: Tue Oct 8 04:44:29 2002: Houston, we have forked: pid 2543 ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '143987360_1033931574.797965' ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '143987360_1033931574.797965' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Tue Oct 8 04:44:35 2002 Hostname: idiotprogrammer Port: 8080 ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Oct 8 04:44:35 2002 Hostname: idiotprogrammer Port: 8021 ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Tue Oct 8 04:44:35 2002 Unix socket: /usr/local/zoperj/Zope-2.6.0b1-linux2-x86/var/pcgi.soc ------ 2002-10-08T04:44:35 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): Module __main__, line 831, in ? SystemExit: initgroups is required to safely setuid ***************************************************************** WHEN I RUN STOP ./stop: kill: (2540) - No such pid ./stop: kill: (2543) - No such pid total 200 I unzipped it as rj2nagle (group who belongs to groups rj2nagle and webperson) I installed it as root The main zope directory is owned by root and has the group webperson, of which rj2nagle is a member **************************************************** Permissions total 200 drwxrwxr-x 13 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Oct 8 05:41 . drwxrwxr-x 3 root webperso 94 Sep 29 22:01 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 bobbyapa rjapache 19 Sep 24 12:33 bin drwxrwxr-x 4 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Sep 24 12:33 doc drwxrwxr-x 2 bobbyapa rjapache 23 Sep 24 12:33 Extensions drwxrwxr-x 2 bobbyapa rjapache 75 Sep 24 12:33 import drwxrwxr-x 3 bobbyapa rjapache 22 Sep 24 12:33 include -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 04:50 inituser drwxrwxr-x 2 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Oct 6 12:40 inst -rwxr-xr-x 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 225 Jul 23 1999 install -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 39 Oct 6 12:39 installoptions drwxrwxr-x 4 bobbyapa rjapache 35 Sep 24 12:33 lib -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 2366 Nov 28 2001 LICENSE.txt drwxrwxr-x 8 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Oct 6 12:41 pcgi -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 05:41 permissions.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 987 Apr 29 1999 README.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 36427 Aug 22 19:57 setup.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27658 Oct 6 12:40 setup.pyc -rwxrwx--x 1 root root 640 Oct 8 04:44 start -rwxrwx--x 1 bobbyapa rjapache 658 Oct 6 13:10 start~ -rwxr-x--x 1 root root 640 Oct 6 12:56 start.original -rwxrwx--x 1 bobbyapa rjapache 75 Oct 6 12:41 stop -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 418 Jul 23 06:15 stupid_clean drwxrwxr-x 3 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Oct 6 12:41 utilities drwxrwxr-xt 2 bobbyapa rjapache 156 Oct 8 05:01 var -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 31105 Sep 5 14:53 z2.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23074 Oct 6 12:40 z2.pyc -rwxrwxr-x 1 bobbyapa rjapache 663 Oct 6 12:41 Zope.cgi -rw-r--r-- 1 rj2nagle rj2nagle 6419 Aug 14 16:11 zpasswd.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6918 Oct 6 12:40 zpasswd.pyc drwxrwxr-x 4 bobbyapa rjapache 4096 Oct 6 12:40 ZServer