I am a newbie working through the zope book and tutorials. The zope book examples regarding Image manipulation states that the python PIF is required. The only info I can find for installing PIF is Unix/Linux oriented.. I am using the zope binary, and my config (as copied from control panel) is: Zope Version (Zope 2.7.4-0, python 2.3.4, win32) Python Version 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] System Platform win32 SOFTWARE_HOME C:\Program Files\Zope-2.7.4-0\lib\python ZOPE_HOME C:\Program Files\Zope-2.7.4-0 INSTANCE_HOME C:\Zope-Instance CLIENT_HOME C:\Zope-Instance\var is PIF included already? (in which case the exapmles failed) and if not, how do I install it into the existing zope?? I do not have a separate python installation, just the one with zope. I have the win32 install for PIF (1.1.4) but it complains about not finding a python installed in the registry, and fails. lil' help please? Ian No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005