Okay, my aim here is to effectively have batching with trees. Why? well because a tree with over a thousand items at the root is pretty hefty to download to a browser, not to mentioned pretty antisocial to navigate and use. My idea, as you may have seen from recent posts, was to do a dtml-in over the first set of children so I could do the batching there, and then do a dtml-tree for each one of them to get the tree as before. Is this a good or a bad idea? Is having lots of dtml-tree's on the same page acceptable or not? okay, assuming it it a good idea, the tree to be replaced is: <dtml-tree branches="postingValues"> ...show stuff here... </dtml-tree> I'm currently trying: <dtml-in postingValues> <dtml-with "_.getitem('sequence-item',0)"> <dtml-tree branches="postingValues"> ...do stuff here... </dtml-tree> </dtml-with> </dtml-in> but this appears to just render the original tree once for each child. Any ideas how I should be doing this? cheers, Chris